tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post9211385359554082237..comments2023-06-10T11:25:01.066-04:00Comments on The Truth About Moshiach: Keep Out!Avihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comBlogger87125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-46871120644623096772008-08-23T17:18:00.000-04:002008-08-23T17:18:00.000-04:00Yehudi01on August 21, 2008 at 8:27 PMyou said:-"Ra...<B>Yehudi01</B><BR/>on August 21, 2008 at 8:27 PM<BR/>you said:-<BR/>"Ralph, please do not speak negatively of the rabbis."<BR/><BR/>Was this because I commented "With all due respect, I think your religious leaders give themselves, and their followers, <B>excessive</B> credit."Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-3815534207261795522008-08-21T23:11:00.000-04:002008-08-21T23:11:00.000-04:00Incidentally, I realize that you do not accept the...Incidentally, I realize that you do not accept the New Testament but I have quoted it here to give the circumstance upon which these words were given.Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-14981015550998174642008-08-21T23:09:00.000-04:002008-08-21T23:09:00.000-04:00This is the actual circumstances from the book of ...This is the actual circumstances from the book of Matthew surrounding Yeshua condemning them:<BR/><BR/> 13"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.[c]<BR/><BR/> 15"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when he becomes one, you make him twice as much a son of hell as you are.<BR/><BR/> 16"Woe to you, blind guides! You say, 'If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gold of the temple, he is bound by his oath.' 17You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? 18You also say, 'If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but if anyone swears by the gift on it, he is bound by his oath.' 19You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? 20Therefore, he who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. 21And he who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. 22And he who swears by heaven swears by God's throne and by the one who sits on it.<BR/><BR/> 23"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cummin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. 24You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.<BR/><BR/> 25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.<BR/><BR/> 27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.<BR/><BR/> 29"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30And you say, 'If we had lived in the days of our forefathers, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.' 31So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32Fill up, then, the measure of the sin of your forefathers!<BR/><BR/> 33"You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? 34Therefore I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. 35And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. 36I tell you the truth, all this will come upon this generation.<BR/><BR/> 37"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing. 38Look, your house is left to you desolate. 39For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, 'Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.'[d]"Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-79474475636949513472008-08-21T23:04:00.000-04:002008-08-21T23:04:00.000-04:00Now look at WHY Yeshua called these specific rabbi...Now look at WHY Yeshua called these specific rabbis serpents and a brood of vipers. This was not his opinion of all rabbis and his LOVE was for the Jewish people that the leaders and rulers were not shepherding but rather lording their positions over them.Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-63410151658379866622008-08-21T21:21:00.000-04:002008-08-21T21:21:00.000-04:00The rabbis are only "serpents, broods of vipers". ...The rabbis are only "serpents, broods of vipers". They were hypocrites and liars. Good thing that Rebbe Yeshua sorted that one out.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-31863679415094652882008-08-21T21:18:00.000-04:002008-08-21T21:18:00.000-04:00Like the great Rebbe Yeshua, right?Like the great Rebbe Yeshua, right?Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-91036499573169877392008-08-21T20:27:00.000-04:002008-08-21T20:27:00.000-04:00Ralph, please do not speak negatively of the rabbi...Ralph, please do not speak negatively of the rabbis.Yehudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07370713357407387725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-6111955113624541622008-08-21T04:32:00.000-04:002008-08-21T04:32:00.000-04:00BKon August 20, 2008 at 8:46 PMyou said:-"..the go...<B>BK</B><BR/>on August 20, 2008 at 8:46 PM<BR/>you said:-<BR/>"..the goyyim now gloat."<BR/><BR/>and I question your use of that word. My Merriam-Webster has this definition:-<BR/>" Main Entry:1gloat<BR/>Pronunciation:*gl*t<BR/>Function:intransitive verb <BR/>Etymology:probably of Scandinavian origin; akin to Old Norse glotta to grin scornfully<BR/>Date:1676<BR/><BR/>1 obsolete : to look or glance admiringly or amorously<BR/><B>2 : to observe or think about something with triumphant and often malicious satisfaction, gratification, or delight *gloat over an enemy's misfortune*</B><BR/> –gloater noun <BR/> –gloatingly adverb"<BR/><BR/>I, for one, have never thought of Jews as the enemy but as brothers in Israel, even though I cannot prove descendancy from any of the tribes.<BR/>My "Halleluyah" was an expression of joy that another individual had begun to discover the truth.<BR/><BR/>you also said on August 20, 2008 at 10:39 PM ".. the very people who brought G-d to the world and first came up with the concept of the messiah.."<BR/> The Jews "brought G-d into the world"?? surely you can't believe that in your heart. It was G-d who brought himself into the world for love of those He had created, mankind, including the nation of Israel. The Jews had nothing to do with it. If it hadn't been for Abraham, a man who was not a Jew but described as a friend of G-d, none of us would probably exist today.<BR/><B>Get a light, BK</B>.<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness, consider what G-d told Moses, a Levite,:-<BR/>"Exo 32:9 And the LORD said unto Moses: 'I have seen this people, and, behold, <B>it is a stiffnecked people</B>. <BR/>Exo 32:10 Now therefore let Me alone, that My wrath may wax hot against them, and <B>that I may consume them</B>; and I will make of thee a great nation.' <BR/>Exo 32:11 And Moses besought the LORD his God, and said: 'LORD, why doth Thy wrath wax hot against Thy people, that Thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand?"<BR/><I>(e-Sword Tanach - JPS)</I><BR/><BR/>With all due respect, I think your religious leaders give themselves, and their followers, excessive credit.Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-31256495435889523012008-08-20T23:54:00.000-04:002008-08-20T23:54:00.000-04:00That I can respect. Good night BK.That I can respect. Good night BK.Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-91934791674857956072008-08-20T23:47:00.000-04:002008-08-20T23:47:00.000-04:00I find it offensive that he still pretends that wh...I find it offensive that he still pretends that what he believes is Jewish. If he had the courage to just come out and say that know he was a CHRISTian as he believed in CHRIST then my response would be different. I just wanted all Jews to be aware of his beliefs and where he stands. I do not hate him, nor will I call him names. I still respect him although I believe that he has made an enormous chillul HaShem, desecration of the Name.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-50021028097344649932008-08-20T23:32:00.000-04:002008-08-20T23:32:00.000-04:00Frankie, how did I become friends with Yehudi? Bec...Frankie, how did I become friends with Yehudi? Because we both shared a love for HaShem and Judaism. Now that is gone. Can you not understand from where I am coming?<BR/><BR/><BR/>He STILL has a love for HaShem and Judaism. The only thing gone is you. I understand that you are upset, livid even. Can you not understand that if he believes that Yeshua is the Messiah that he grieves for his own people who have turned their backs on their Messiah? (don't take that as proof that he's the Messiah but rather as the perspective that Yehudi01 is coming from) How hard do you think this was for him as he certainly KNEW the response that would ensue? He acted in courage hoping for you to understand and accept him and agree to disagree. If you want to persuade him that he is wrong I think that is great. That is acting as a friend. If you want to call him names and spread that he is apostate and accuse him then as his friend we will certainly tangle as I will defend him even as I would defend you. I have defended you in the past at your other blog.Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-5380372315699223812008-08-20T23:12:00.000-04:002008-08-20T23:12:00.000-04:00And if his life changing moment was that he should...And if his life changing moment was that he should become an atheist? And he was ecstatic? You would be singing a different tune.<BR/><BR/>This situation only came about because he did not guard himself well enough. He associated too much with xians, with idolaters, is married to a Messianic who brought them into his house, took money from xians (which is against halacha) and all the while read their sites. He did not build a fence around the Torah and his heart has now led him astray.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-36950782185420750942008-08-20T23:10:00.000-04:002008-08-20T23:10:00.000-04:00Frankie, how did I become friends with Yehudi? Bec...Frankie, how did I become friends with Yehudi? Because we both shared a love for HaShem and Judaism. Now that is gone. Can you not understand from where I am coming? To me, Yehudi (or Notzri, now) has abandonned the Jewish people and betrayed us to the forces of Esav. Now, the goyyim see that Israel is ready to give up its heritage. The Redemption has been postponed (may G-d have mercy). Just by saying that he has accepted JC is missionizing, as it leads others to wonder why he did so.<BR/><BR/>I do not hate Notzri01 at all. You would know from the e-mail that I wrote him. (Way to assume). I feel sorry for him but <EM>af al pi she'chata, yisrael hu</EM>, although he has sinned, he remains a Jew. I will not cut ties from him because I want to know what cause his apostasy and how I can bring him back. I want to defend Am Yisrael from this sort of thing.<BR/><BR/>Frank, we're going in circles here.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-14653107967926070772008-08-20T23:07:00.000-04:002008-08-20T23:07:00.000-04:00And by the way, my happiness and rejoicing is not ...And by the way, my happiness and rejoicing is not for me it's for him. He obviously is having a life changing moment and is ecstatic. His decision is not about you it is about him. While you condemn him and call him names on what is obviously an important day for him I chose to rejoice with him. It's called backing your friends.Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-8574782981348551602008-08-20T22:57:00.000-04:002008-08-20T22:57:00.000-04:00And yet you have condescended to Yehudi01 by delet...And yet you have condescended to Yehudi01 by deleting his post although you woke up this morning calling him your brother and being willing to stand beside him and defend Israel. I called you a child because you are acting like one. When you become a man you will put away childish things. Call me what you want and despise me but Yehudi01 does not deserve your hate-speak. Guess what? I woke up this morning willing to stand beside Yehudi01 and die and I will go to bed the same way. If he chooses to become a buddhist in another year I will stand beside him then as well. That's what MEN for their friends!!!Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-47521471609383151342008-08-20T22:40:00.000-04:002008-08-20T22:40:00.000-04:00And Frank, do not condescend to me. I am not a chi...And Frank, do not condescend to me. I am not a child and falsehood is wrong no matter who says it. And FYI there is no commandment to rise before a wicked person, an apostate and an idolater... if such a situation would present itself, theoretically speaking, of course.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-33759782754293879182008-08-20T22:39:00.000-04:002008-08-20T22:39:00.000-04:00I have no fear. Really, my problem is not so much ...I have no fear. Really, my problem is not so much at Yehudi's "revelations" but at Ralph's "Hallelujah!". That is the essence of why Christians want Jews to convert: it validates their lies by having the very people who brought G-d to the world and first came up with the concept of the messiah accept them. I almost cried when I saw yours and Jungle Mom's comments of Notzri01's site. Such apostasy makes the goyyim gloat and desecrates G-d's name.<BR/><BR/>Feel proud that the Jewish nation is now one fifteen-millionth smaller.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-38051716894706463492008-08-20T22:00:00.000-04:002008-08-20T22:00:00.000-04:00I am, at this point, willing to "shake hands and p...I am, at this point, willing to "shake hands and part friends." G-d bless you and your family, Avi. You are welcome over at my blog anytime...I won't even delete your comments.Yehudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07370713357407387725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-15361042107108444922008-08-20T21:56:00.000-04:002008-08-20T21:56:00.000-04:00Yehudi01 did not missionize he told his honest opi...Yehudi01 did not missionize he told his honest opinion and stated that he did not want to missionize. Your fear only confirms and does not refute.Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-67528880945203986332008-08-20T21:53:00.000-04:002008-08-20T21:53:00.000-04:00A little bit desperate aren't you? Your childishn...A little bit desperate aren't you? Your childishness is shining bright when you delete the thoughts of a Jewish brother. Are Jewish children taught to disrespect their elders like this?Papa Frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03544402123543832168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-35791485296547492782008-08-20T20:47:00.000-04:002008-08-20T20:47:00.000-04:00You hold that G-d cannot oppose something that He ...You hold that G-d cannot oppose something that He has stated in His Torah. I have quoted where the Torah says that G-d has no form, and that He is not a man. Therefore, He cannot break His own laws.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-51338560504710730502008-08-20T20:46:00.000-04:002008-08-20T20:46:00.000-04:00I will not allow missionizing under any form at th...I will not allow missionizing under any form at this blog. Yehudi, the goyyim now gloat. What a chillul HaShem. <BR/><BR/><EM>Ve'lamalshinim al tehi tikvah...</EM>Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-8519559893473603952008-08-20T18:07:00.000-04:002008-08-20T18:07:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-47020875779794141282008-08-20T13:05:00.000-04:002008-08-20T13:05:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Yehudihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07370713357407387725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-13453610836132169932008-08-19T22:55:00.000-04:002008-08-19T22:55:00.000-04:00on August 19, 2008 at 8:24 PMBar Kochba said... "Y...on August 19, 2008 at 8:24 PM<BR/><B>Bar Kochba</B> said... <BR/>"You answer this: Can G-d create a rock so heavy that He can't lift it?"<BR/><BR/>Which is a purely rhetorical question, one without answer.<BR/>It is in similar vein to:-<BR/>'What happens when an irresistable force meets with an immovable object?"Ralphhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09094056276430807523noreply@blogger.com