tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post1940105426491495549..comments2023-06-10T11:25:01.066-04:00Comments on The Truth About Moshiach: Liar, Lunatic or Lord?Avihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-9695943832734173872010-06-14T09:56:10.435-04:002010-06-14T09:56:10.435-04:00To all Christians reading this,
There is a differe...To all Christians reading this,<br />There is a difference between the historical Ribi Yehoshua ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) and J… desribed in the “gospels”.<br />A logical analysis (found in www.netzarim.co.il (Netzarim.co.il is the website of the only legitimate Netzarim-group)) (including the logical implications of the research by Ben-Gurion Univ. Prof. of Linguistics Elisha Qimron of Dead Sea Scroll 4Q MMT) of all extant source documents of “the gospel of Matthew” and archeology proves that the historical Ribi Yehosuha ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah) from Nazareth and his talmidim (apprentice-students), called the Netzarim, taught and lived Torah all of their lives; and that Netzarim and Christianity were always antithetical. <br />It is important to distinguish the two polar-opposites - the authentic, historical, PRO-Torah 1st-century Ribi from Nazareth and the 4th-century (post-135 C.E.), arch-antithesis ANTI-Torah apostasy developed by the Hellenists (namely the Sadducees and Roman pagans who conspired to kill Ribi Yәhoshua ha-Mashiakh (the Messiah), displaced his original followers Netzarim and redacted the NT). (Source: www.netzairm.co.il)<br /><br />Study the Netzarim-website thourougly and find out the difference between the historical Ribi Yehoshua, and the antithesis J….. of Christianity.<br /><br />To the blog owner,<br />You must distinguish the historical Ribi Yehoshua and the antithesis Yesh''u.<br /><br />I want to quote this quote: “For nearly 2,000 years, Jews have been fighting, and hating, an enemy straw man, fabricated by Roman gentiles.<br />Throwing hand grenade propaganda bombs and wielding shotgun hate-mongering instead of deftly wielding a surgeon's knife, Jews have, for 2,000 years now, slandered an innocent Jew, a first-century Rib′ i who, historians have confirmed, died a Tor•âh′ -teaching Rib′ i. In slandering an innocent, Jews have failed, relegated to watching helplessly as 90+% of the Jewish community has assimilated, many to the Church. Judaism cannot stand while slandering an innocent. It is khi•lul′ י--ה, which ensures self-defeat.<br />Far worse, Jews who slander Rib′ i Yәho•shu′ a (as contrasted against the Hellenist counterfeit, Yësh"u) collaborate in promulgating Christian the doctrines, false Hellenist "redactions" that cloak this Tor•âh′ -teaching Rib′ i in a feculent cloak (see Zәkhar•yâh′ 3.1-5).”<br />“ (quote: www.netzarim.co.il)<br /><br />Anders BranderudAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08418091459248577266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-79750941247816329802009-11-01T17:43:00.138-05:002009-11-01T17:43:00.138-05:0011 Now as they were hearing these things, Rebbe, M...11 Now as they were hearing these things, Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach added a mashal (parable), because he was near to Yerushalayim and they had the havamina (assumption) that the Malchut Hashem was about to appear immediately. 12 Then Moshiach said, A certain man of noble birth traveled to a distant country to get for himself royal power for his malchut and to return. 13 And having summoned ten avadim (servants) of his, he gave them ten minas and he said to them, Conduct business until I come. 14 But his subjects were hating the man of noble birth and they sent a delegation after him saying, We do not want this one to rule over us. 15 And it came about when he returned, having received the royal power of his malchut, he summoned to his presence these avadim to whom he had given the kesef, that he might have daas of what they had gained by trading. 16 And the rishon (first) came, saying, With your mina, Adoni, ten minas more were gained. 17 Yafeh! Eved tov! Because you have been ne'eman (faithful) in a very small thing, have shlita (authority) over ten towns.[MISHLE 27:18] 18 And the sheni (second) came saying, Your mina, Adoni, made five minas. 19 And the man of noble birth said also to this one, And you have shlita (authority) over five towns. 20 And the other came saying, Adoni, hinei! Your mina which I had put away in a tichel (kerchief). 21 For I was fearing you, because you are a big machmir (stickler), you take what you did not deposit, and you reap what you did not sow. 22 He says to him, From your own mouth I will judge you, eved rasha (bad servant). You had daas that I am a big machmir (stickler), taking what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow? 23 Why then did you not put my kesef on deposit? Then when I came I would have collected ribit (interest). 24 And to the ones having stood nearby he said, Take from him the mina and give it to the one having ten minas. 25 And they said to him, Adoneinu, he has ten minas! 26 I say to you, that to everyone having, more will be given, but from the one not having, even what he has will be taken away. 27 But these oyevim of mine, the ones refusing me the Kabbalas HaMalchus (refusing my sovereignty as king) over them, bring here and execute them before me. -LUKAS 19:11-27<br /><br />You misused the parable in Luke 19:27. This parable was used to teach a greater prophectic truth (a future event): those who do not serve Melech HaMoshiach, or serve him with unbelief and dishonor, will be destroyed as will all his enemies when he returns.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-87114633125794094342009-10-31T16:02:15.983-04:002009-10-31T16:02:15.983-04:0031 Again those of Yehudah took up stones that they...31 Again those of Yehudah took up stones that they might stone him. 32 In reply, Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach said to them, Many ma'asim tovim I showed you from HaAv. Because of which ma'aseh do you stone me? 33 In reply, those of Yehudah said to him, For a ma'aseh tov we do not stone you, but for Chillul Hashem and because you, being a man, make yourself G-d. [VAYIKRA 24:16] 34 In reply, Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach answered them, Has it not been written in your Torah, ANI AMARTI ELOHIM ATEM (I said you are g-ds.) [TEHILLIM 82:6] [SHEMOT 7:1; 22:27 TARGUM HASHIVIM] 35 If those ones he called g-ds, to whom the Dvar Hashem came and lo tufar Kitvei Hakodesh (and the Kitvei Hakodesh cannot be broken, TEHILLIM 119:89,142) 36 Can you say of the One whom HaAv set apart as HaKadosh and sent into the Olam Hazeh that he commits Chillul Hashem because I said, Ben HaElohim Ani Hu? [YIRMEYAH 1:5] 37 If I do not accomplish the pe'ulot of Avi, do not regard me with bitachon. 38 But if I do, even if you do not have emunah in me, chotsh have emunah in the pe'ulot, so that you may continue to have da'as and binah that HaAv is in me and I am in HaAv. 39 They were seeking, therefore, again to seize him, and he eluded their hand.<br /><br />40 And he went away again beyond the Yarden to the place where Yochanan was in the beginning giving the mikveh mayim's tevilah of teshuvah, and he remained there. 41 And many came to him and were saying, Yochanan indeed did no ot (miraculous sign), but everything Yochanan said about this man was HaEmes. 42 And many put their emunah (faith) in him [as Rebbe, Melech HaMoshiach] there. -YOCHANAN 10:31-42Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-6840068368540089492009-01-25T16:58:00.000-05:002009-01-25T16:58:00.000-05:00Marquus, sorry for taking so long to get back to y...Marquus, sorry for taking so long to get back to you:<BR/><BR/>1) The parable was of the king ie. Jesus executing his rebellious subjects ie. the Jewish people, before him. Although it was a parable, it was meant to illustrate a message. Obviously, the disciples understood Jesus's kingdom to be worldly as they went out and purchased swords.<BR/><BR/>2) "Truly, I say to you, there are some standing among you here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in the Kingdom." (Matt. 16:28, 24:38)<BR/><BR/>The world has definitely not seen "the son of man coming in the kingdom". There is no proof as to whether the disciples actually saw Jesus again, unless one already accepts the Christian story. This is circular reasoning.<BR/><BR/>3) The Temple held G-d's presence yet the Temple was never worshipped. Christians worship Jesus as G-d, despite G-d clearly saying that He has no form and not a man. Please tell me how much more clear G-d could have been to ensure that no one would worship a man. G-d said that no form was seen at Sinai, and whichever deity was not at Sinai is not worthy of worship. That excludes Jesus.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-3642478081634742422009-01-20T01:13:00.000-05:002009-01-20T01:13:00.000-05:00Shalom Aleichem BK,Let me continue on one more fro...Shalom Aleichem BK,<BR/><BR/>Let me continue on one more front to clear up confusion.<BR/><BR/><BR/>If Jesus is a deity, then G-d is not alone because Jesus is a discrete physical being. The Torah and the prophets are filled with statements hat G-d is alone and that there is no other. Claiming that G-d has a physical form and is a Triune being is contradictory to the teachings and spirit of the Torah.<BR/><BR/>Absolutely correct. Yahweh is not man nor is He the son of man. Yahweh has no physical form and man has never seen him.<BR/><BR/>John 1:18 No one has ever seen God; but the only and unique Son, who is identical with God and is at the Father's side -- he has made him known.<BR/><BR/>When G-d manifested himself in the Temple His Sh'kinah filled the Temple so that no one could enter, likewise the son. The building was not G-d neither was the flesh of Y'shua G-d. Neither was G-d's deity nor his power diminished in either cases.<BR/><BR/>If G-d's Sh'kinah can fill brick and mortar than He can also fill flesh and blood.<BR/><BR/>Laila Tov!Marquushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11943713778102636149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-51278626579664716472009-01-20T00:46:00.000-05:002009-01-20T00:46:00.000-05:00Bar Kochba, in my readings of your blogs I must hu...Bar Kochba, in my readings of your blogs I must humbly say that you totally mischaracterize Y'shua, his disciples, Messianics and Evangelicals.<BR/><BR/>I will go over a few at a time.<BR/><BR/>1)In Luke 19:27, Jesus commanded that his disciples bring his Jewish enemies before him and slaughter them before him, a role that the Church was all to happy to play throughout history. Similarly, Jesus cursed the cities that did not believe in him (Matt.11:20-24).<BR/><BR/>Totally false. This was a parable.<BR/><BR/>Luke 11:11.While they were listening to this, Yeshua went on to tell a parable, because he was near Yerushalayim, and the people supposed that the Kingdom of God was about to appear at any moment...25.They said to him, `Sir, he already has ten manim!'26.But the master answered, `I tell you, everyone who has something will be given more; but from anyone who has nothing, even what he does have will be taken away.27.However, as for these enemies of mine who did not want me to be their king, bring them here and execute them in my presence!'"<BR/><BR/>Y'shua never told his disciples to execute anyone.<BR/><BR/>Luke 23:47.While he was still speaking, a crowd of people arrived, with the man called Y'hudah (one of the Twelve!) leading them. He came up to Yeshua to kiss him,48.but Yeshua said to him, "Y'hudah, are you betraying the Son of Man with a kiss?"49.When his followers saw what was going to happen, they said, "Lord, should we use our swords?"50.One of them struck at the slave of the cohen hagadol and cut off his right ear.<BR/>51.But Yeshua answered, "Just let me do this," and, touching the man's ear, he healed him.<BR/><BR/>So much about killing his enemies.There is an old saying, "Text without a context is a pretext."<BR/><BR/>"Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place." (Mark 13:30)<BR/><BR/>Who is THIS GENERATION? TEXT Luke 13:1-31 4."Tell us, when will these things happen? And what sign will show when all these things are about to be accomplished?"...28. "Now let the fig tree teach you its lesson: when its branches begin to sprout and leaves appear, you know that summer is approaching. 29.In the same way, when you see all these things happening, you are to know that the time is near, right at the door. 30.Yes! I tell you that this people will certainly not pass away before all these things happen.<BR/><BR/>Those that would see the signs, that generation would see his return.<BR/><BR/>"Truly, I say to you, there are some standing among you here who will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in the Kingdom." (Matt. 16:28, 24:38)<BR/><BR/>Fulfilled; Matthew 17:1-8;1.Six days later, Yeshua took Kefa, Ya`akov and his brother Yochanan and led them up a high mountain privately. 2.As they watched, he began to change form -- his face shone like the sun, and his clothing became as white as light.<BR/><BR/>If your prepared for an open and honest discussion I'm willing too.<BR/><BR/>I'm reposting this in case you missed it on the other post since there has been no response.Marquushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11943713778102636149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-19297942279726092552009-01-15T15:43:00.000-05:002009-01-15T15:43:00.000-05:00Shaaalom BK:You know that I respect you, too.I hav...Shaaalom BK:<BR/><BR/>You know that I respect you, too.<BR/><BR/>I have always admired that about you and your blog. Once I went to the blog of one of your commenters, a Zionist Jew. I read a post there, and left a respectful comment. Someone else there called me a "pig". <BR/><BR/>Yeah, ok ...<BR/><BR/>I have always believed that people can have discussion and disagree in a respectful manner.<BR/><BR/>You are correct:<BR/><BR/>"I do not serve what ye serve; nor will ye serve what I serve; ... Ye have your religion, and I have my religion!’" <BR/><BR/>Peace, Bro!Safiyyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670659439981133346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-41714243283017129592009-01-14T22:18:00.000-05:002009-01-14T22:18:00.000-05:00Safiyyah, the Qur'an mandates Muslims to subjugate...Safiyyah, the Qur'an mandates Muslims to subjugate Christians and Jews. "You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - <STRONG>among those who received the Scripture</STRONG> - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly." (Q 9:29). Either Jews and Christians become Muslim or they accept subservience and dhimmi status.<BR/><BR/>I repeat once again: I DO NOT worship Allah, the god of Hamas, al-Qaeda, Islamic jihad, the god in whose name the Chabad shluchim in Mumbai were slaughtered, or the 8 yeshiva students at Merkaz HaRav. I do not worship the deity in whose name thousands of Israelis have been murdered, blown up in cafes and pizzerias. No, Safiyyah, I respect you but I do not believe in the same god as you.<BR/><BR/>"I do not serve what ye serve; nor will ye serve what I serve; ... Ye have your religion, and I have my religion!’"Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-69927372257073150182009-01-14T21:30:00.000-05:002009-01-14T21:30:00.000-05:00Christians, Jews, and Muslims ALL serve and worshi...Christians, Jews, and Muslims ALL serve and worship the same Almighty!<BR/><BR/>The "non-believers" you are referring to is the people who do not acknowledge the One.<BR/><BR/>1. Hear O Israel, the Lord our G-d is One (from Shema)<BR/>2. There is no god but Allah (from Shahadah)<BR/><BR/>Allah is not a different diety; He is the Lord of all people. Even the un-believers!Safiyyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670659439981133346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-21403404221459761052009-01-14T19:35:00.000-05:002009-01-14T19:35:00.000-05:00Safiyyah, my point was not that Muslims worship Mu...Safiyyah, my point was not that Muslims worship Muhammad. I was simply saying that it is really irrelevant to a Jew who Muhammad was.<BR/><BR/>I would disagree with your statement that Jews and Muslims worship the same G-d. HaShem's "mercy extends to all of His creatures" (Psalm 145:9) while in Allah's sight, non-believers are the most vile of all creatures (Sura 8:55). We worship a G-d of life, while Muslms worship a god of death and hate.Avihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06156322358503174356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-62263020540226990982009-01-14T18:37:00.000-05:002009-01-14T18:37:00.000-05:00Shaalom BK:You wrote:"The Torah commands us to ven...Shaalom BK:<BR/><BR/>You wrote:<BR/><BR/>"The Torah commands us to venerate G-d and G-d alone. It is immaterial to a Jew who Jesus, Muhammad or Hare Krishna was. Their worship must be avoided at all cost"<BR/><BR/>As you know, Islam views Jesus (as) as a prophet who also brought revelation. The Quran tells us that he came to the Jews with the Shema due to the goings on of the Jews of that time period.<BR/><BR/>The Islamic viewpoint is that there are both messengers AND prophets. Some can do both, i.e., bring/reinforce a message to the people AND bring revelations (Moses, Davis, Muhammad, Jesus).<BR/><BR/>Also, Muslims do not worship Muhammad (saw). We worship the same Lord and Creator that you do. Him and Him only. <BR/><BR/>And not all Christians worship Jesus (as). Some do, but many of them don't.Safiyyahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07670659439981133346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-912687005056852525.post-67465400521712175432009-01-14T13:16:00.000-05:002009-01-14T13:16:00.000-05:00Well done, BK.Well done, BK.Mad Zionisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02368389951636950238noreply@blogger.com